ГородОткуда цитата ?конкретные сроки не указываются, вот, что пишут:когда? а то все же хочется побыстрее глянуть.
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#425
Отправлено 23.06.2005, 22:55:41
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ГородОткуда цитата ?конкретные сроки не указываются, вот, что пишут:когда? а то все же хочется побыстрее глянуть.
Дайте ссылку pls.
И газеты такой уж нет
Фильм будет интересный - не тока потому что Дильназ в нем снялась. Уверен, будет банальный сюжет и дешевые трюки - но интерес у меня, жителя Казахстана, он вызовет стопудово.
И кстаи
ДИМОН!
УЧИ КАЗАХСКИЙ!
#428
Отправлено 24.06.2005, 09:56:23
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Откуда такой пессимизм? Что за уверенность такая?ГородОткуда цитата ?конкретные сроки не указываются, вот, что пишут:когда? а то все же хочется побыстрее глянуть.
Дайте ссылку pls.
И газеты такой уж нет
Фильм будет интересный - не тока потому что Дильназ в нем снялась. Уверен, будет банальный сюжет и дешевые трюки - но интерес у меня, жителя Казахстана, он вызовет стопудово.
И кстаи
ДИМОН!
УЧИ КАЗАХСКИЙ!
#430
Отправлено 30.06.2005, 04:08:41
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Касыма,Абылая,Кенесары(1,2,3 части) или только Абылая (2ая часть)
Блин если покажут только 2ую часть - фигово-же!!
Первая намного интереснее!
Будет ли в воспоминаниях показывать Чингисхана?
Будут ли показывать набеги Кипчаков на Русь?
Если не покажут откачевку Жанибека и Керея, Касым-хана, Кенесары
то это будет не фильм а полная фигня!
И я буду прав : как можно уместить так много, в какие-то 1:50мин?
Люди, чиайте книги перед просмотром, не пожалеете.
P.S. Берите наше издание т.к. в московской урезали первую часть
(московские издатели стеснялись что до Чингисхана, Русь терпела опустошительные набеги от одного только племени Кипчаков
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#432
Отправлено 30.06.2005, 19:39:08
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Не будет ни первой, ни третьей... Тока Абылай. Никаких воспоминаний и ракурсов в прошлое...Кто в курсе какую часть из книги покажут в фильме?
Касыма,Абылая,Кенесары(1,2,3 части) или только Абылая (2ая часть)
Блин если покажут только 2ую часть - фигово-же!!
Первая намного интереснее!
Будет ли в воспоминаниях показывать Чингисхана?
Будут ли показывать набеги Кипчаков на Русь?
Если не покажут откачевку Жанибека и Керея, Касым-хана, Кенесары
то это будет не фильм а полная фигня!
И я буду прав : как можно уместить так много, в какие-то 1:50мин?
Люди, чиайте книги перед просмотром, не пожалеете.
P.S. Берите наше издание т.к. в московской урезали первую часть
(московские издатели стеснялись что до Чингисхана, Русь терпела опустошительные набеги от одного только племени Кипчаков![]()
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#434
Отправлено 01.07.2005, 02:40:54
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По каким еще мотивам?Да и то только по мотивам...
Книга и есть главный мотив!
Не будет ни первой, ни третьей... Тока Абылай. Никаких воспоминаний и ракурсов в прошлое...
Это жаль...так как "Заговоренный меч" намного интереснее чем "Отчаяние"
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И этого урода Чингисхана не покажут - тоже жаль
А знаете почему? Потому что огромную часть "Кочевников" составляют именно лирические отступления, без них основной текст - ничто.
Отсюда можно сделать вывод что фильм будет недостойным книги.
Быстрее-б он вышел...Нетерпится посмотреть как это наш горе-казахфильм сумел уместить "Отчаяние" в 110 минут?!
#435
Отправлено 01.07.2005, 14:30:48
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Вот я и говорю, что фильм будет только по мотивам "Отчаяния". Когда я впервые прочитал сценарий, то не знал смеяться мне или плакать. А потом вроде свыкся, даже понравился. Просто я думал, что все должно быть по книге...По каким еще мотивам?Да и то только по мотивам...
Книга и есть главный мотив!Не будет ни первой, ни третьей... Тока Абылай. Никаких воспоминаний и ракурсов в прошлое...
Это жаль...так как "Заговоренный меч" намного интереснее чем "Отчаяние"
И этого урода Чингисхана не покажут - тоже жаль
А знаете почему? Потому что огромную часть "Кочевников" составляют именно лирические отступления, без них основной текст - ничто.
Отсюда можно сделать вывод что фильм будет недостойным книги.
Быстрее-б он вышел...Нетерпится посмотреть как это наш горе-казахфильм сумел уместить "Отчаяние" в 110 минут?!
#439
Отправлено 02.07.2005, 14:41:33
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очень интересен его взгляд на нас со стороны
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GS: How did you become involved in The Nomad?
JSL: The script was presented to me a while back, I think maybe a couple of years back and I had read it and really liked it and expressed my interest in it. Much later they eventually contacted me.
GS: Who sent you the script?
JSL: I'm not sure. From what I understand, the director had seen Map of the Human Heart and I guess he felt that I could play this one character that had an age change.
GS: How big is the age change?
JSL: Twenty years.
GS: What age do you start at?
JSL: In my late thirties, and then aging into the fifties.
GS: I understand you're playing the advisor to the future king of Kazakhstan.
JSL: I'm sort of his mentor and teacher.
GS: Is it a physical role?
JSL: There are some fighting sequences.
GS: Your work has largely been in adventure and action. Is this along the same lines?
JSL: It's a more dramatic role with bits of fighting sequences set against an epic backdrop.
GS: Who is the king of Kazakhstan that you're mentoring?
JSL: He has two names. One is... [long pause] Forgive me! When I leave work I'm completely removed from it so the names and things... [laughs]
GS: That's okay. You've said that you only do one movie a year because it's so grueling.
JSL: Yeah, it takes about a month, maybe even a month and a half to come down off a trip like that.
GS: And you're not even done with it.
JSL: I'm not finished and that was four months of intensive involvement in a foreign country.
GS: Is it based on a true story?
JSL: The Kazakh people I guess are wanting their story to be brought to the world. Their country is kind of an obscure place. They just want to be accounted for.
GS: Are they really a branch of the Mongol race?
JSL: Yeah. You know when people say Asia very few times that area central asia gets accounted for. People mostly take into consideration Japan or Corea or China and places in the far east, India or so. This area surprised me quite a bit. I found the people looking very very Asian with some influence from Turkish tribes.
GS: Are they closer to the Genghis Khan stock?
JSL: Oh yeah.
GS: If you're walking around there, they can't tell you're not a Kazakh?
JSL: No, sometimes people start speaking to me in Kazakh.
GS: Are you playing a Kazakh? They weren't casting you because the mentor was maybe Chinese, Japanese or Corean?
JSL: No, that's what I mean. The impression that people get when they say Kazakhstan or Central Asia. These are all warring tribes with their heritage in the Mongol era. You look at what Genghis Khan did during his lifespan and what his sons did, what kind of territory they occupied. It was massive, it's bigger than China. In fact, they owned part of China.
GS: Does this take place during the Genghis Khan era?
JSL: This is much later. It takes place in the 1600s.
GS: Are you doing a lot of horseback riding and swordsmanship?
JSL: Yeah.
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Отправлено 02.07.2005, 14:42:29
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GS: What were the conditions like in Kazakhstan?
JSL: The culture and the food is very different. There are some western establishments but I always found myself eating more of the Uygur food or the Kazakh food. A lot of other tribes like the Uzbek people and their food is fantastic. I was leaning more on that kind of food. The city that we were staying in is fairly cosmopolitan.
GS: What city is that?
JSL: It's called Almaty.
GS: Is that the capitol?
JSL: It used to be but they moved the capitol up north to a place called Astana, so we stayed in Almaty.
GS: Would we consider it modern?
JSL: They have automobiles, they have electricity, they have air conditioning. They have quite a few modern conveniences.
GS: So it wasn't like when you were filming Rapa Nui?
JSL: No, Rapa Nui is much more primitive.
GS: There wasn't much hardship?
JSL: Not in that sense, but in the sense of climate changes and locations. Logistically it was pretty heavy duty for the crew. It was hard, the pace.
GS: Why is it taking so long to film a movie that normally takes about six to eight weeks?
JSL: There's a lot of things they overlooked because no one had ever tried to do an epic in the western sense with Hollywood people and such in Kazakhstan. When you're trying to organize 400 extras or so, and 400 horses, who have no idea what making a movie is all about, you tend to have a communication breakdown. Things that you thought you could shoot in a day would take a week.
GS: Is this a Hollywood project in the sense of being directed and produced by a Hollywood studio?
JSL: Yeah, the Kazakh people -- producers as well and investors -- are all looking to it as maybe their Lord of the Rings for like what it did for New Zealand.
GS: It might be a six or eight hour movie?
JSL: No, I think the only reason it's taking so long is... I mean, I don't really care how long it takes because Ivan Passer is given the latitude to make the shots right. Because everything is on location, he's waiting for the right setup, the right lighting and all these things.
Jason Scott Lee at the video premier of Dracula Resurrection (2003) and being styled into his role as Father Uffizi, the badass vampire-slayer.
GS: So you're having to hurry up and wait a lot.
JSL: Oh yeah. I don't mind if he's getting the shots. In a sense we're making a movie the way maybe Kubrick made it or maybe John Ford or David Lean.
GS: In the sense of the authenticity of location?
JSL: Yeah, yeah. I dreamed of working for a person who has this kind of attitude. Also the producers weren't as pushy as they are in Hollywood. They have a tendency to let him shoot and let him shoot. I'm grateful for having had this kind of experience because I've always wanted to work with those kinds of directors who took their time.
GS: So it's a high quality project?
JSL: Yeah.
GS: Do you think it will have mass appeal for American audiences?
JSL: I'm not sure. There is a quality to it that I haven't seen in epic movies for a while.
GS: Is it like The Last Emperor in terms of epic scope and grandeur?
JSL: The thing about this film is that there's a funny kind of gentleness about it. That's the rare thing that I don't find in ...
GS: So the pacing is not as tight as most Hollywood films.
JSL: No.
GS: You've done a lot of location work in the last two or three years.
JSL: My work throughout my career has been location.
GS: That's true.
JSL: Soldier I did in Los Angeles and maybe bits and pieces of Dragon.
GS: Who plays the main character?
JSL: His name is Kuno Becker. He's originally from Mexico and he lives in Los Angeles. They chose him because he's one of the up and coming young actors, on the hot list, I guess.
GS: So they really are shooting for mass appeal.
JSL: They told me how many countries are involved, something ridiculous like 28 countries.
GS: What's the budget?
JSL: We started at twenty million. The reason we broke down, weather was one reason and financing was another. I think they had to go back and look to the investors and refinance the movie because we spent the twenty million.
GS: Is that the reason for ...
JSL: It's still not a Lord of the Rings $200 million-plus kind of thing.
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