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А по-моему большще надо переживать по поводу удаффофской фразы:
"Ф чём пречины такова аццкава наезда на далёкую и мирную страну, бальшинство жытелей каторой ваабще ничево не знают про англею, острава да и честна гаваря про море тоже?"
Они же вроде россияне, ближайшие соседи и в недалеком прошлом соотечественники - а такого мнения о нас... Это будет похуже, чем шутки всяких Боратов
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#242
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 09:46:13
Sniffer
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Да пора уже забить на этоА по-моему большще надо переживать по поводу удаффофской фразы:
"Ф чём пречины такова аццкава наезда на далёкую и мирную страну, бальшинство жытелей каторой ваабще ничево не знают про англею, острава да и честна гаваря про море тоже?"
Они же вроде россияне, ближайшие соседи и в недалеком прошлом соотечественники - а такого мнения о нас... Это будет похуже, чем шутки всяких Боратов
как сказала моя жена "мне все равно что обо мне и о нас в общем думают - главное то что я сама о себе думаю и что из себя представляю"
В конце концов много ли мы знаем о культуре того же монгольского народа? А ведь сосед! Живет себе тихо мирно и забил на весь остальной мир...
А иносранцы пусть и дальше сюда едут с бутылками питьевой воды, потому что думают что тут пустыня голимая и ноль целых ноль десятых цивилизации - больше будет удивления и восхищения!
Сообщение отредактировал Sniffer: 17.11.2005, 09:54:06
#243
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 10:04:38
Pooh
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О, Сниффер умно говорит. Есть такой прикол - в молодости люди волнуются что о них подумают другие, в зрелом возрасте людям наплевать на то что о них думают другие, а в старчестве людям становится понятно что никто о них много чего и не думал и их не вспоминал даже. 
А Казахстан страна молодая.
А Казахстан страна молодая.
#244
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 11:06:40
BritFan
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Paranoid Android
А по-моему большще надо переживать по поводу удаффофской фразы:
"Ф чём пречины такова аццкава наезда на далёкую и мирную страну, бальшинство жытелей каторой ваабще ничево не знают про англею, острава да и честна гаваря про море тоже?"
Они же вроде россияне, ближайшие соседи и в недалеком прошлом соотечественники - а такого мнения о нас... Это будет похуже, чем шутки всяких Боратов
это не самое худшее, что там есть. был на том ресурсе один аффтар по имени Тевтон (мало их Саша Невский утопил когда-то
), который жжог на Казахстан из Германии (мало немцев наши деды поубивали ) - насочинял пять или шесть милых "очерков".вот, любителям зоологии рекомендую:
http://www.udaff.com...vton/23054.html
http://www.udaff.com...vton/23468.html
http://www.udaff.com...vton/23958.html
http://www.udaff.com...vton/26569.html
http://www.udaff.com...vton/26905.html
http://www.udaff.com...vton/27258.html
#249
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 15:24:20
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Прочитал несколько страниц и стало не по себе. Эт конечно хорошо, что у нас люди такие патриоты, но... это ведь просто шоу.
В той же самой Британии есть комедийный сериал Little Britain (Маленькая Британия), которое обожают многие британцы и хоть я не британец, но тоже тащусь от этого шоу. Так вот это шоу очень сильно стебает британцев, стереотипы, привычки, поведение, т.п. Есть несколько людей, которые возмущаются этим шоу, но большинство просто получают наслаждение и смеются.
Так что расслабтесь, посмотрите Али Джи или Маленькую Британию на худой и получайте удовольствие. Ведь в конце концов у нас пока нет подобных шоу, одни только российкие показывают ("Моя прекрасная няня" и т.п.)
В той же самой Британии есть комедийный сериал Little Britain (Маленькая Британия), которое обожают многие британцы и хоть я не британец, но тоже тащусь от этого шоу. Так вот это шоу очень сильно стебает британцев, стереотипы, привычки, поведение, т.п. Есть несколько людей, которые возмущаются этим шоу, но большинство просто получают наслаждение и смеются.
Так что расслабтесь, посмотрите Али Джи или Маленькую Британию на худой и получайте удовольствие. Ведь в конце концов у нас пока нет подобных шоу, одни только российкие показывают ("Моя прекрасная няня" и т.п.)
Сообщение отредактировал Takoy Vot: 17.11.2005, 16:07:51
#250
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 15:29:13
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Вот и я - в доску своя
одно дело стебаться о стране, про которую ты более-менее знаешь. О ней у тебя заведомо сложено мнение и трудно будет изменить.
Другое дело-о стране, о которой люди даже представления не имеют.
После анекдотов о чукчах-у меня такое впечатление и складывается, что они народ такой-то и такой (каким его "стебают" в анекдотах).
Другое дело-о стране, о которой люди даже представления не имеют.
После анекдотов о чукчах-у меня такое впечатление и складывается, что они народ такой-то и такой (каким его "стебают" в анекдотах).
#252
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 15:43:51
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На российском MTV стартует трансляция шоу Ali G ( Borat), сроки не помню, но со следующего месяца точно, представляю, какая теперь шумиха начнется, у всех же есть MTV? А у кого нет подключайте быстро, а то останетесь в стороне от важных событий, может там и суд покажут! Хотя скорее всего там будут старые программы крутить...
#254
Отправлено 17.11.2005, 15:55:03
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а мне понравилось "двадцать лучников-снайперов из охраны президента молча встали и сели на автобус "Астана-Лондон"
прикол!
это он у Ельцина точно украл
был еще анекдот: "Сегодня было совершено покушение на президента Монгольской Народной Республики, к счастью стрела, выпущенная убийцей, не смогла пробить защитный жилет из бараньей кожи на теле главы государства"
#255
Отправлено 18.11.2005, 12:53:45
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Kazakhstan: What you won't learn from Borat
Sacha Baron Cohen's comic creation portrays them as a band of goat-punching,
woman-caging, urine-drinking anti-semites; the Kazakhs, understandably,
object, and are threatening legal action. So what is central Asia's most
obscure nation really like? Ed Caesar reports
Published: 16 November 2005
50 things you may not have known
1. Almost as big as western Europe, and four times the size of Texas,
Kazakhstan is the ninth-largest country in the world.
2. At the 2004 Olympics Kazakhstan finished 40th in the medals table - above
South Africa - with one gold, four silvers and three bronze medals.
3. Despite Borat's suggestions that, in Kazakhstan, people hunt bears "for
fun", hunting is no longer a popular pastime. The ancient custom of hunting
with eagles, however, has been revived in the past few years, after being
discouraged by the Soviet regime.
4. The word "Kazakh" means "independent" or "wanderer".
5. Since independence from the USSR in 1991, Kazakhstan has been ruled by
President Nursultan A Nazarbayev, right. He has the power to initiate
constitutional amendments, appoint and dismiss the government, dissolve
parliament and call referendums. In 1995, President Nazarbayev called a
referendum to expand his powers. In 1999, he swept to power again, although
he did not face stiff competition - one of his opponents based his campaign
on his ability to crush glass in his bare hands.
6. Kazakhstan is home to the Baikonur cosmodrome, from which Yuri Gagarin's
first orbital flight was launched in 1961. The centre used to be top secret,
but has been re-invented as a tourist destination.
7. Kazakhs love rhythmic gymnastics and cycling - a local boy, Alexander
Vinokourov, came third in the 2003 Tour de France.
8. The main export is oil. The aim is to be in the world's top five
exporters.
9. The government discussed whether to legalise polygamy in 2000 but,
despite a lot of support, the practice remains common but illegal.
10. Traditional beshbarmak consists of boiled horseflesh on big noodles.
11. The official language is Kazakh, but most people also speak Russian.
12. President Nazarbayev is lining up his daughter, Dariga, to succeed him.
She is an opera singer. A mezzo soprano to be precise.
13. Borat's sister is a prostitute - "maybe second or third in whole of
Kazakhstan". She is not alone. The country features in an official American
report as one of 15 countries that has not done enough to combat
people-trafficking.
14. There are 600,000 registered drug addicts in the country.
15. Kazakhstan is the only central Asian country that exports oil to China -
and the Chinese have built a 1000km pipeline to ensure this continues.
16. Kazakhs excel at boxing. They won two golds and two silvers in the sport
at the 2000 Olympics, while in 2004, Bakhtiyar Artayev won gold and was
named best boxer of the Games.
17. Local inns are likely to sell two types of traditional tipple: fermented
camel's milk (kumyran), or fermented mare's milk (kumiss).
18. The capital moved from Almaty to the purpose-built city of Astana in
1998. Almaty comes from the old name "Alma-Ata", meaning "Father of Apples",
after the wild apples that grow in the area.
19. The largest outdoor ice rink in the world is at Medeo, outside Almaty.
20. There are six Kazakhs for every square kilometre.
21. In the Almaty Zelenniy Bazaar, a kilo of caviar costs around £170,
although local mafia interests can secure the luxury for well under this
price.
22. Kazakhstan has had a glittering Hollywood career, starring with Harrison
Ford in Air Force One, with Pierce Brosnan in The World is not Enough and
Jean Reno in Rollerball.
23. The words of the Anthem of the Republic of Kazakhstan are as follows:
"We are a valiant people, sons of honour,
And all we've sacrificed to gain our freedom.
Emerging from malicious grip of fate, from hell of fire,
We scored a victory of glory and success
Soar high up in the sky, oh, eagle of freedom,
Call up to harmony, agreement and accord!
For hero's might and strength is in the nation,
Just as the unity is nation's razing sword.
While honouring our mothers and respecting
The cream of cream of our rising nation
We welcomed all ill-starred and struck by ruin ...
Our homeland, the steppe, a sacred cradle
Of friendship and accord
Gave all a shelter and a hearty refuge
We've overcome the hardships
Let the past serve bitter lesson
But ahead we face a radiant future.
We bequeath our sacred legacy implying our mother tongue
And sovereignty and valour and traditions
So dearly cherished by our forefathers
As true mandate to future generations."
24. The national football team are 140th in the Fifa world rankings, out of
205. Their first World Cup was in 1998, when they were placed in the Asian
group. Kazakhstan protested, and were moved to Uefa, the European governing
body.
Sacha Baron Cohen's comic creation portrays them as a band of goat-punching,
woman-caging, urine-drinking anti-semites; the Kazakhs, understandably,
object, and are threatening legal action. So what is central Asia's most
obscure nation really like? Ed Caesar reports
Published: 16 November 2005
50 things you may not have known
1. Almost as big as western Europe, and four times the size of Texas,
Kazakhstan is the ninth-largest country in the world.
2. At the 2004 Olympics Kazakhstan finished 40th in the medals table - above
South Africa - with one gold, four silvers and three bronze medals.
3. Despite Borat's suggestions that, in Kazakhstan, people hunt bears "for
fun", hunting is no longer a popular pastime. The ancient custom of hunting
with eagles, however, has been revived in the past few years, after being
discouraged by the Soviet regime.
4. The word "Kazakh" means "independent" or "wanderer".
5. Since independence from the USSR in 1991, Kazakhstan has been ruled by
President Nursultan A Nazarbayev, right. He has the power to initiate
constitutional amendments, appoint and dismiss the government, dissolve
parliament and call referendums. In 1995, President Nazarbayev called a
referendum to expand his powers. In 1999, he swept to power again, although
he did not face stiff competition - one of his opponents based his campaign
on his ability to crush glass in his bare hands.
6. Kazakhstan is home to the Baikonur cosmodrome, from which Yuri Gagarin's
first orbital flight was launched in 1961. The centre used to be top secret,
but has been re-invented as a tourist destination.
7. Kazakhs love rhythmic gymnastics and cycling - a local boy, Alexander
Vinokourov, came third in the 2003 Tour de France.
8. The main export is oil. The aim is to be in the world's top five
exporters.
9. The government discussed whether to legalise polygamy in 2000 but,
despite a lot of support, the practice remains common but illegal.
10. Traditional beshbarmak consists of boiled horseflesh on big noodles.
11. The official language is Kazakh, but most people also speak Russian.
12. President Nazarbayev is lining up his daughter, Dariga, to succeed him.
She is an opera singer. A mezzo soprano to be precise.
13. Borat's sister is a prostitute - "maybe second or third in whole of
Kazakhstan". She is not alone. The country features in an official American
report as one of 15 countries that has not done enough to combat
people-trafficking.
14. There are 600,000 registered drug addicts in the country.
15. Kazakhstan is the only central Asian country that exports oil to China -
and the Chinese have built a 1000km pipeline to ensure this continues.
16. Kazakhs excel at boxing. They won two golds and two silvers in the sport
at the 2000 Olympics, while in 2004, Bakhtiyar Artayev won gold and was
named best boxer of the Games.
17. Local inns are likely to sell two types of traditional tipple: fermented
camel's milk (kumyran), or fermented mare's milk (kumiss).
18. The capital moved from Almaty to the purpose-built city of Astana in
1998. Almaty comes from the old name "Alma-Ata", meaning "Father of Apples",
after the wild apples that grow in the area.
19. The largest outdoor ice rink in the world is at Medeo, outside Almaty.
20. There are six Kazakhs for every square kilometre.
21. In the Almaty Zelenniy Bazaar, a kilo of caviar costs around £170,
although local mafia interests can secure the luxury for well under this
price.
22. Kazakhstan has had a glittering Hollywood career, starring with Harrison
Ford in Air Force One, with Pierce Brosnan in The World is not Enough and
Jean Reno in Rollerball.
23. The words of the Anthem of the Republic of Kazakhstan are as follows:
"We are a valiant people, sons of honour,
And all we've sacrificed to gain our freedom.
Emerging from malicious grip of fate, from hell of fire,
We scored a victory of glory and success
Soar high up in the sky, oh, eagle of freedom,
Call up to harmony, agreement and accord!
For hero's might and strength is in the nation,
Just as the unity is nation's razing sword.
While honouring our mothers and respecting
The cream of cream of our rising nation
We welcomed all ill-starred and struck by ruin ...
Our homeland, the steppe, a sacred cradle
Of friendship and accord
Gave all a shelter and a hearty refuge
We've overcome the hardships
Let the past serve bitter lesson
But ahead we face a radiant future.
We bequeath our sacred legacy implying our mother tongue
And sovereignty and valour and traditions
So dearly cherished by our forefathers
As true mandate to future generations."
24. The national football team are 140th in the Fifa world rankings, out of
205. Their first World Cup was in 1998, when they were placed in the Asian
group. Kazakhstan protested, and were moved to Uefa, the European governing
body.
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Отправлено 18.11.2005, 12:55:26
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25. Around 1,500 Kazakhs live in Britain.
26. The population of Caspian Sea sturgeon, from whose roe Beluga caviar is
made, is plummeting. A quarter of a century ago, around 1,100 tonnes of
caviar were harvested each year. In 2003, this was eight tonnes.
27. The semi-arid, thinly populated steppe is used by the Kazakh and Russian
governments as a nuclear testing site. Few efforts have been made to stem
the resulting pollution. The rates of disease in nearby rural areas have
soared.
28. Kazakhstan's currency is the tenge; 1,000 tenge are worth £4.30.
29. During President Nazarbayev's speech at the new capital's opening
ceremony, he said there was no problem with the hurricane winds that whip
through the city. His hat blew off.
30. Men over the age of 18 must serve two years of military service.
31. Foreign hunters pay for expensive licences to hunt Siberian ibex (large,
long-horned goats). Maral (mountain deer) or Asiatic wapiti (elk) with
antlers weighing up to 20kg are also a big draw.
32. Borat's wish to "Throw the Jew down the Well" is shared by some Kazakhs.
Although President Nazarbayev denies that anti-Semitism exists, inflammatory
articles have appeared in the populist Kazakhskaya Pravda newspaper decrying
"the Zionists" and "International Jewry".
33. The population is 15,143,704.
34. In the western plains, the Karakurt spider, a relative of the black
widow, kills scores of camels every year.
35. Genghis Khan ravaged Kazakhstan in the 13th century, leaving it without
settled civilisation for 600 years.
36. Ethnic Kazakhs were, until the middle of the 20th century, pastoral
nomads. They lived in yurts - portable, domed tents made of felt - and
travelled from summer pastures to warmer winter lands, accompanied by their
livestock.
37. Zhambyl Zhabaev, who died in 1945, is Kazakhstan's most famous folk
singer and poet. He played the domra, a plucked string instrument.
38. The population is 47 per cent Muslim and 44 per cent Orthodox.
39. Kazakhstan has borders with Russia, China, Russia, Turkmenistan,
Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.
40. Last month, the national football team finished at the bottom of their
seven-team World Cup qualifying group. They had accrued a total of one
point, from a goalless draw with Georgia in Tbilisi.
41. Kazakhstan became the first former Soviet republic to repay all of its
debt to the IMF in 2000, seven years ahead of schedule.
42. Kazakhstan cuts off Turkmenistan, Kyr-gyzstan and Uzbekistan from
Russia, and acts as a power-broker for the region as a whole. It uses this
geographical advantage to justify charging exorbitant fees for rail-usage
dues across the steppes. There is still no rail service connecting Almaty
with Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan, for precisely this reason.
43. To celebrate the closure of the Semipalatinsk nuclear test range four
years ago, Tugelbek Kasymov, 56, a member of the International Anti-Nuclear
Movement, cycled from Moscow to Rome. Calling himself "Kazakhstan's earth
cosmonaut", he completed the 5,000km journey in 25 days.
44. Kazakhstan has the 10th highest number of horses in the world.
45. It is the world's largest land-locked country, although it borders the
land-locked Caspian Sea.
46. Wife-stealing is a common way of securing marriage. A man kidnaps a
woman whom he wants to marry, and her parents are left with no option but to
negotiate a reasonable dowry.
47. The international dialling code for Kazakhstan is +7.
48. The national flag, adopted in 1992, comprises a golden sun and bird on a
sky blue background. The background represents "the sky", according to the
designers, while the golden sun represents Kazakhstan's "golden future".
49. In 2001, archaeologists found a 600-year-old mausoleum on the bed of the
Aral Sea, which is rapidly drying out. They believed it to be evidence that
the giant lake had dried out at least once before.
50. The age of consent is 18.
26. The population of Caspian Sea sturgeon, from whose roe Beluga caviar is
made, is plummeting. A quarter of a century ago, around 1,100 tonnes of
caviar were harvested each year. In 2003, this was eight tonnes.
27. The semi-arid, thinly populated steppe is used by the Kazakh and Russian
governments as a nuclear testing site. Few efforts have been made to stem
the resulting pollution. The rates of disease in nearby rural areas have
soared.
28. Kazakhstan's currency is the tenge; 1,000 tenge are worth £4.30.
29. During President Nazarbayev's speech at the new capital's opening
ceremony, he said there was no problem with the hurricane winds that whip
through the city. His hat blew off.
30. Men over the age of 18 must serve two years of military service.
31. Foreign hunters pay for expensive licences to hunt Siberian ibex (large,
long-horned goats). Maral (mountain deer) or Asiatic wapiti (elk) with
antlers weighing up to 20kg are also a big draw.
32. Borat's wish to "Throw the Jew down the Well" is shared by some Kazakhs.
Although President Nazarbayev denies that anti-Semitism exists, inflammatory
articles have appeared in the populist Kazakhskaya Pravda newspaper decrying
"the Zionists" and "International Jewry".
33. The population is 15,143,704.
34. In the western plains, the Karakurt spider, a relative of the black
widow, kills scores of camels every year.
35. Genghis Khan ravaged Kazakhstan in the 13th century, leaving it without
settled civilisation for 600 years.
36. Ethnic Kazakhs were, until the middle of the 20th century, pastoral
nomads. They lived in yurts - portable, domed tents made of felt - and
travelled from summer pastures to warmer winter lands, accompanied by their
livestock.
37. Zhambyl Zhabaev, who died in 1945, is Kazakhstan's most famous folk
singer and poet. He played the domra, a plucked string instrument.
38. The population is 47 per cent Muslim and 44 per cent Orthodox.
39. Kazakhstan has borders with Russia, China, Russia, Turkmenistan,
Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.
40. Last month, the national football team finished at the bottom of their
seven-team World Cup qualifying group. They had accrued a total of one
point, from a goalless draw with Georgia in Tbilisi.
41. Kazakhstan became the first former Soviet republic to repay all of its
debt to the IMF in 2000, seven years ahead of schedule.
42. Kazakhstan cuts off Turkmenistan, Kyr-gyzstan and Uzbekistan from
Russia, and acts as a power-broker for the region as a whole. It uses this
geographical advantage to justify charging exorbitant fees for rail-usage
dues across the steppes. There is still no rail service connecting Almaty
with Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan, for precisely this reason.
43. To celebrate the closure of the Semipalatinsk nuclear test range four
years ago, Tugelbek Kasymov, 56, a member of the International Anti-Nuclear
Movement, cycled from Moscow to Rome. Calling himself "Kazakhstan's earth
cosmonaut", he completed the 5,000km journey in 25 days.
44. Kazakhstan has the 10th highest number of horses in the world.
45. It is the world's largest land-locked country, although it borders the
land-locked Caspian Sea.
46. Wife-stealing is a common way of securing marriage. A man kidnaps a
woman whom he wants to marry, and her parents are left with no option but to
negotiate a reasonable dowry.
47. The international dialling code for Kazakhstan is +7.
48. The national flag, adopted in 1992, comprises a golden sun and bird on a
sky blue background. The background represents "the sky", according to the
designers, while the golden sun represents Kazakhstan's "golden future".
49. In 2001, archaeologists found a 600-year-old mausoleum on the bed of the
Aral Sea, which is rapidly drying out. They believed it to be evidence that
the giant lake had dried out at least once before.
50. The age of consent is 18.
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Отправлено 20.11.2005, 10:13:52
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Вчера смотрел по нтв сюжет про бората. По отношению к нам (казахам) нтвэшники достаточно корректны , но, после кадров интервью в штатах этого отморозка, появилось желание заехать в табло грязному гомосексуалисту. Особенно после его речи что мол в казахстане мужики имеют друг друга от нехватки женщин. Это уже не смешно.У меня две версии. Первая - это заказ, вторая - это кто-то из наших ему очко порвал не по детски, иначе чем объяснить подобный кураж?
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